Thread regarding Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) layoffs

Confirmed huge layoff in February 2018

With the seasonally empty buildings the execs are letting their guards down and having hallway conversations that would normally take place in secret. Today while in a breakroom in the Palo Alto office I overheard two execs discuss in detail the massive layoff planned for February 2018.

Sounded like no office or location will be spared.

Meg hacked the company to the muscle and now the new management is cutting away to the bones.

Looks like its truly over in 2018...

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I can affirm of fiolettsk.ru's at Microfocus. I came into work on MLK day Jan 15th 2018. Got the blow letting me know about being laid off. It stinks especially after going through this again. When Attachmate merged with Microfocus, I was laid off but was fortunate to get rehired a few months later. It's a hard concept to accept. Cant dwell on it though, have to get back on my feet and I am determined to find a company that has stability.

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Per JP Morgan meeting this past meeting, there will be an additional 700 plus cuts coming. Based in the meeting notes, these will be directed toward hospitals and corporate bases staff. Not for certain about that; very vague in their answers.

Conifer is up for sale and Trey gave several large firms looking to purchase. Decision should be made by mid year

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This is coming as I keep hearing more and more whispering in the hallways

Can anybody share anything please

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Hay all, these are on track for next month so get those resumes polished

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I agree about the fibs on this site...

In TRUE news, there has been at least a smattering of layoffs post-New-Year in Houston. I cannot say more for fear of revealing who I am, sorry... It is motivated by the usual desire to move jobs away from the USA, by all appearances.

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I wish people do not post blatant lies and bogus news here. Life is stressful enough otherwise for genuine people who visit this site. Most people come to this site to become aware of the company ongoing/impending layoffs and to share legitimate concerns and news they have heard from reliable sources. The value of this site is lost to everyone once people start pushing blatant lies.

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The post about retroactive layoff is bogus. It would be also illegal in most states.

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"You will be notified of your obsolescence when you return to work, and promptly be escorted out the door on Jan 2"

Wouldn't they have to notify you before Dec 31st to stop the 401K match vesting?

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Don't let DXC divide and conquer. Some former ES folks (and I suspect CSC folks) are understably scared and others angry at the abuses perpetrated on them by leadership. Infighting and sniping here is aimed at the wrong targets. The real villains are the ruthless little man at the top, his talentless girlfriend and lapdog FD! DXC leadership is actively posting on some sites to try and counteract the bad press from all the disgruntled staffers.

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No doubt they will cut, perhaps not as much as you overheard, but over the year, positions will go in North America and Europe as work is outsourced to India. In fact, outsourcing to India has really been a massive failure in terms of proving value to customers. The work is rarely done to any level of Industry quality, on time or on budget. But it is cheap and with a little creative accountancy, the story can be made to look ok. The rot set in when EDS leadership decided, many years ago, that they would bail out with as much money as possible. So they configured a company for sale, to gullible HP who in turn managed to lure CSC into the mix. Most of the employees spend as much time looking for another employer as working on the projects they are assigned to. Meg is doing fine, but she has dumped thousands of decent people into the swamp. Of course, Hurd, Brown and others all did similar things. These are not good business people, just hypocrites with connections that enabled them to blight what were good companies.

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Léo Apotheker is shrugging his shoulders....

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Yes. The top echelon has been working over the ‘shutdown’ to identify and layoff the unsuspecting masses. They chopped large quantities of people today in order to avoid the company 401k match for 2017. You will be notified of your obsolescence when you return to work, and promptly be escorted out the door on Jan 2. Happy New Year

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So they're doing meetings during the shutdown to plan the elimination? This must be true!

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There were continued discussions today in the Palo Alto offices about layoffs. These are still on the table for next year.

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The real problem is not the workforce age. It is actually that HPE is a company without a product, it is a company without personality. Servers and storage could be the "company identity", but HPE lost this market, and the sales force that could revert this scenario is gone. The only remaining product is Aruba, which IMHO is what is going to define HPE for the next upcoming years. However, unfortunately this means that WFRs will keep happeing on all other areas but Aruba. Meg wanted a small company, and Aruba it will be.

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It’s coming in 2018

Your loving management team

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"I am surprised. In my 10+ years I've hired and worked with dozens of college grads and have never gone over $65k in California"

Are you serious? We were paying new grads that much and more in Ft. Collins back in 2000.

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"Lol, other companies will pay “triple digits” to new grads right out of school"

I know that Oracle does, and they are hardly a visionary firm (note, I'm talking about CS and EE majors). If HPE only pays 65K, they'll have a hard time attracting top talent.

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HPE pay is one of the the worst among the Tech companies

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Lol, other companies will pay “triple digits” to new grads right out of school

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With only 5 years experience, I started with $60K at HPE back in 1997. I'm triple digits now. As bad as HPE is, it unfortunately pays on par or higher than most companies.

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Are you saying HPE does not sponsor H1B visas? I find that hard to believe, because I worked with hundreds of H1B visas personal during the years I was at HPE. I over heard them saying of thier appointments with the VISA Govenment offices they had to meet regularly.

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I was hired out of college into an engineering position, and started quite a bit above $65k. I am certain my older coworkers were making much more than me, though. Perhaps it varies by the role.

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I am surprised. In my 10+ years I've hired and worked with dozens of college grads and have never gone over $65k in California and we've never sponsored an H1B. Always used contractors.

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hpe sponsors h1bs and they make more then new grads.

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The 65K salary upper limit is not accurate for new grads.

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So you're saying you made less than $65k? HPE has a very strict pay band for new grads. Depending on the role and region they make between $45k and $65k. Regarding H1B, you must mean contractors because HPE does not sponsor visas. Yes, a contractor costs more than an FTE. However, anyone on a work visa is not getting that full amount HPE is paying. Their sponsors get a huge cut. They're probably clearing maybe $50k a year IF they're lucky, but many times it's way less than that even though HPE pays $90+ an hour for them.

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"...why do they give themselves hugh bonus money ..."

(Sic, "huge" is what you presumably meant).

They are HUGE in their own minds, and so they like to bonus!

All we can do is to bend over and take it, it sure looks like to me...

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Actually as an older worker I was way under paid making much much less than my H1B and College Grad counter parts. I still got laid off. Had nothing to do with pay. if the company has budget issues, why do they give themselves hugh bonus money each time they do a major layoff?

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It’s no surprise management is eliminating the older experienced workers. They unfortunately cost more than college grads.

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"There are plenty of anecdotes"

I'm sure there are, but that's all they are: anecdotes. You can't actually believe that senior engineers, developers, etc aren't paid more than their junior counterparts on average.

Not defending the practice by any means, but I think it's a bit delusional to think that senior management has some sort of personal vendetta against older employees. They just have a vendetta against paying for R&D, because that impacts their quarter-by-quarter bottom line. See: rampant outsourcing, etc. I can all but guarantee Meg, Antonio, etc personally view millennials with as much disdain as the senior employees that they laid off do.

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"The higher pay that many senior engineers command is the cause."

How is that possible when no one has been getting raises for years? There are plenty of anecdotes of new college hires being paid just as much, if not more, than "senior engineers"

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"The higher pay that many senior engineers command is the cause."

If higher pay is what it's all about, Meggot and Minions should have been way-long gone!

There's another solution at hand, and Meggot and Minions (and other large corporations) just cannot see it... As people get older and money gets tighter and older folks slow down... The plain fact is, lots of older folks do slow down... Cut their pay! Duh!

For those who get all miffed about their cut in pay, document their trouble-making, and fire them! For those who are happy to keep their jobs at lower pay... There WOULD be many of these... Keep them! That's a win-win!

But Meggot and Minions would rather use blatant age discrimination and pay the legal costs as a regular "cost of business". Besides, it makes them feel WAAAY superior and smug, to be old but overpaid slowing-down geezers, firing other (lower-paid) slowing-down geezers who are inferior to their smugly superior selves... Do NOT underestimate the power of smugness!

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Age has jack sh-- to do with fiolettsk.rus. Correlation =/= causation folks. The higher pay that many senior engineers command is the cause.

Sad days, though. Just slap a label on Taiwan's product and call it good. No need for engineering expertise in that case. ;)

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Why the hostility by some posters towards people who are clearly distressed and upset at their (the) situation? Clearly many of the older workers at HPE were impacted by the WFR, chances are they were top performers and thus expensive to keep. When you cross your 40's and are close to retirement, it is very hard to find another job no matter what your skills or abilities are, plus many people have not applied for a job in a very long time and the process of getting yourself ready for the job market can be daunting. So this distress and upset should be understandable to most anyone with an adult emotional intelligence.

It is also understandable why people would be upset at the terms of the severance. It is almost as if you were fired for cause because of the agreement that you can never return to HPE again, even as a contractor. To many people, this is an unneccessary burden on something that is already very difficult.

I would like to share that I started a new job this month in a rapidly expanding sector of IT. I am excited to be part of something so dynamic and in a company where my contributions matter. For people still following this thread. There is a very bright path forward from HPE, though it can be hard to see from where you are right now, but HPE/HP has been an emotional challenge for many of us for quite a long time. At some point, when we can all look back, this situation will, for many of us, show itself to be an opportunity forward.

I Wish the best for everyone this holiday season. My thoughts and prayers for you and your families.

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Pretty ridiculous to say Antonio "isn't HP" considering he has been with the company for 23 years and thus fits the profile of most of the people grumbling on here about their decades of time at the company but then placing all blame on the CEO for any shortcomings.

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Not exactly true on the microsoft statement, but not exactly false, either.

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Yes the class-action age-discrimination lawsuit was revealed in Meg's internal documents that Baby Boomers are undesirables. Plus Meg has gone public with off shoring 80% and only 20% in the USA.

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For those of you who have devoted years or decades of your life to H-P and associated companies, I hope you and your families have a Merry Christmas. The New Year most likely will not be so happy. Word is Dell earnings were $20B for the last quarter and their share of the server market rose 32%. Thanks Meg. If layoffs continue it will become more impossible, if not already so, to bring competitive products to market. Getting booted from the Dow and losing Microsoft as a customer are bright red glowing signs no one can miss. Meg isn't HP and neither is Antonio nor Leo, Hurd or Carly. You are, or like me were. I am now a contractor at HP Inc and things are improving. For those trolls, HR kids or whoever is grumbling about geezers. Bill and Dave made valuable contributions when they were geezers. HP, Compaq, et al would never have made it this far if it weren't for us geezers. You are standing on our accomplishments, our shoulders. The view won't be so good when we are gone.

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If "troll" means me as in "On-Guard Geezer in Houston", maybe I laid the sarcasm on too heavily...

I don't want generalize too-too much, but from what I have seen, hard-working, diligent "geezers" have often been replaced by "entitled" and lazy youngsters. Not always, I am sure... But way-way too often! And Meggot and Minions are happy, so long as geezers are replaced by youngsters... No matter what the practical implications may be. If a 1st-level manager proposes that a lazy youngster (not an old hard-working and diligent geezer) be laid off, then that defiant 1st-level manager will be laid off! We have seen this in the details of the class-action age-discrimination lawsuit.

You youngsters who are actually hard-working? My advice is to gain a few skills at HPE (if you have already been snorfled into our particular HPE-version of the La Brea Tar Pits), for a few years at most, and then move on to greener pastures... HPE is NOT any kind of long-term place for hard-working or diligent individual contributors (or lower-level managers) to find ANY kind of just rewards... MOVE ON!!!

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Troll. This post should be nuked. There are very few "geezers" left and those ones are knowledge sharing with the young pup types who has posted here..the over entitled knobs.

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